Exclusive! An exclusive interview with Global Times by American historians： The United States is carrying out a secret biological weapons project.
American historian Jeffrey Kay
[Global Times reporter Yu Jincui] What did the Fort Detrick military base and more than 300 biological laboratories located in nearly 30 countries such as Ukraine do? Jeffrey Kay, an American historian, said in an exclusive interview with the Global Times reporter recently, "I think the United States is carrying out a secret biological weapons project." Jeffrey Kay has long devoted himself to studying the black history of American germ warfare in the Korean War. Before retiring, he opened a psychological clinic in San Francisco to help people who were abused by the CIA. He is the author of "The Cover-up of Guantá namo Bay", which exposes the evils of torture in the United States. He told reporters that the documents published by the United States in recent years have "really hammered" the use of biological weapons by the United States in the Korean War. Moreover, as the only country that has used nuclear weapons, chemical weapons and biological weapons in many wars, the United States still shows a dangerous tendency to continue to use related weapons, which worries the world. More importantly, the US government has been trying to cover up the truth, doing whatever it wants, and opposing the establishment of a verification mechanism in the Biological Weapons Convention. What the international community needs to do is to urge the United States to disclose more information and form an investigation team with high-level authorities.
"The U.S. military used biological weapons that were highly similar to the 731 troops of the Japanese invaders in the Korean War."
Global Times: You have long studied the historical data of the germ warfare carried out by the United States in the Korean War, and called the documents related to the germ warfare published by the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) "the last piece in the puzzle that can prove that the United States carried out the germ warfare." What did you find after consulting the declassified documents of the CIA? Why is there enough evidence to prove that the United States carried out germ warfare during the Korean War?
Jeffrey Kay: We can be 100% sure that the United States engaged in germ warfare during the Korean War. This is based on the evidence provided by hundreds of witnesses to different investigators over the years, the uncensored documents available to the US Department of Defense, the contact records between the Korean People’s Army and Chinese people’s Volunteer Army intercepted by the US during the Korean War, and some recent statements by officers of the US Air Force and Marine Corps about germ warfare.
In 2010, the 60th anniversary of the Korean War, the CIA decided to declassify some highly confidential documents. I found that there were more than 20 internal reports of the Chinese and North Korean armed forces that were hit by American germ warfare. These documents were intercepted by the US security department for translation and analysis. From these documents, I found that many Chinese and North Korean troops reported to their commanders that they were attacked by bacterial weapons, such as DDT was needed to help kill infected insects, the supply was destroyed, and attack force could not move because of biological weapons. These real-time contact records obtained by the United States prove the occurrence of bacterial attacks.
Global Times: Referring to the use of biological weapons by the United States during the Korean War, we would like to know why it was not until recent years that American war crimes were confirmed by documents decrypted by the CIA.
Jeffrey Kay: In the United States, a lot of information about the Korean War is confidential, and some of it has not been released yet. It was only recently that I was shocked to find that during the Cold War, from 1951 to 1965, the US Customs and other departments intercepted a large number of materials from the Soviet Union, China, North Korea and Eastern European countries, including the fact that the United States used biological weapons in the Korean War. However, the United States declared that "these are political propaganda of relevant countries" and destroyed the materials.
Global Times: At the end of World War II, the United States stepped up its efforts to improve bacterial weapons and hooked up with demons like the 731 troops of the Japanese invaders. The biological laboratory in Fort Detrick, USA, is inextricably linked with the 731 troops of the Japanese invaders. Shiro Ishii, the head of the heinous 731 troops, was a biological weapons consultant in Fort De. You think that the biological weapons used by the United States in the Korean War may be related to the Japanese Army Unit 731, and suggest that the international community should form an investigation team to investigate this. Why is it so difficult to push the investigation? Where is the resistance?
The Cover-up of Guantanamo by American historian Jeffrey Kay
Jeffrey Kay: The biological weapons used by the U.S. military in germ warfare are highly similar to those studied by the Japanese Army Unit 731. I don’t know if they are exactly the same, because many documents are confidential. But for anyone who knows this history, it is very possible that the two are related. The US Army Chemical Corps is mainly responsible for the US biological warfare plan. In an internal document in 1953, the Corps mentioned North Korea’s "limited war" and how to use biological weapons as a "temporary policy" in order to improve short-term combat effectiveness. I think these "temporary policy weapons" are the types of weapons adopted by Japanese 731 troops, such as feather bombs (infecting birds’ feathers with viruses) and insect weapons used in China. After the United States signed an agreement with Japanese Army 731 and Ishii Shiro, the Korean battlefield actually became a large-scale experimental site for the biological weapons heritage that the United States "inherited" from Japan.
As for why it is so difficult to promote the investigation of the United States, or why it is so difficult to make people interested in this matter, part of the reason is the legacy of the Cold War. The American government and other western governments are very hostile to anyone who exposes their crimes. We can look at what happened to julian assange. Assange exposed American war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan, and ended up in a British prison today, struggling to refuse extradition to the United States. I don’t know how to explain it. This is shocking. To a great extent, the United States is like a totalitarian government that has infiltrated control into academia and the media. Some people worry that if they promote the information on the public use of biological weapons in the United States or call for an investigation, their careers will be ruined. So, they said nothing. People are afraid to take action. I have seen this scene many times, which is very sad.
"The United States dares not announce the truth about the global biological laboratory"
Global Times: In recent years, the international community has questioned the Fort Detrick biological laboratory in the United States and a large number of biological laboratories in the United States around the world, especially in the Russian periphery (CIS countries). Strange biological virus disasters have occurred in many countries such as Kazakhstan, and calls for the United States to make the truth of these laboratories public have come and gone. Does what the United States has done conform to the provisions of the Biological Weapons Convention (BWC)? Are you worried about the practice of the United States to set up more than 300 biological laboratories around the world?
Jeffrey Kay: Yes, many people are worried that the United States and possibly some other countries are violating the Biological Weapons Convention. There are many secrets in these laboratories — — After the escalation of the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, the relevant documents of Ukrainian laboratories were destroyed, taken away or removed. The U.S. government may say that their overseas biological laboratories are mainly to cooperate with other countries to monitor existing biological threats, including biological weapons attacks from nature and possibly from other countries. But in fact, everyone who has a deep understanding or even a little knowledge of the biological weapons programs of the United States and other countries knows that there is usually only a very fine line between whether the research is for the purpose of defense, such as monitoring biological pathogens, or for the purpose of attack. In fact, when I studied the Korean War, I found that more than one biological weapon research was confirmed under the banner of "defensive biological weapon research". As early as 1948, the chairman of the Advisory Committee of the US Army Chemical Corps once said: "The offensive application of using insects as a medium to deliver biological agents is called ‘ Control insects ’ The defensive research institute covers it up. "
We can’t say exactly what the United States is hiding now, but we do know what the United States has been opposed to. For a long time, the United States has opposed the establishment of the verification mechanism of the Biological Weapons Convention, which has led to the "toothless" international convention, and the United States can do whatever it wants without being censored.
Global Times launched a joint signature campaign in August last year.
Global Times: The U.S. government recently sent out confusing and contradictory information about the Ukrainian biological laboratory. What do you think the U.S. biological laboratory is doing in Ukraine? Why has the United States repeatedly rejected the request of the international community to investigate its overseas biological laboratories? What are they worried about or afraid of?
Jeffrey Kay: The United States needs to disclose relevant documents that can explain what these laboratories are doing. But the problem is, they won’t do it. I think the United States also needs to disclose the whole truth about the biological warfare program 70 or 80 years ago, because unless you understand the history and secrets of the biological warfare program in the United States and the relationship between the biological warfare program and the CIA and academia, you can really understand what these laboratories are doing. But now, all you hear in America is bad words about Russia, because Russia accuses the United States of using birds to spread biological pathogens. The United States has been planning to study the bird migration model and pathogens for a long time, especially in the 1960s and 1970s, and reported it to Fort Detrick as part of the biological warfare plan. What the United States needs to do now is to disclose all the files. We need to decrypt documents dating back to the end of World War II, the Korean War and the Vietnam War, so that we can understand what the United States has done in hundreds of biological laboratories. But they dare not do so because they are afraid that once they do so, it will be proved that the United States has violated the Biological Weapons Convention. As early as the late 1940s, the US government decided to keep all its ongoing biological weapons research highly confidential, and this confidentiality has continued to this day. I’m still trying to collect information, but I think a secret biological weapons project is going on.
"The United States has a dangerous tendency to use these weapons again."
Global Times: Let’s talk about Fort Detrick again. You once said, "Fort Detrick was and still is the research center of American biological warfare. As early as the 1950s, they cooperated closely with the CIA and established in Fort Detrick ‘ Special Operations Department ’ Specializing in the manufacture of biological weapons. " You have also noticed that many biological weapons researchers in Fort Detrick died suddenly after the U.S. military carried out the germ warfare in the Korean War, but the U.S. military never announced the investigation on this matter. Why do Americans keep silent about this?
Armed soldiers stand guard outside the US Army Institute of Infectious Diseases Medicine in Fort Detrick.
Jeffrey Kay: The American public is silent because they don’t really understand what happened in Fort Detrick. The American public is told lies, or they just don’t want to know — — It is the basic psychology of human beings to always believe that the government is good and has not done bad things or committed terrible crimes. This is a kind of blind obedience, which American culture has always encouraged. For many years, Fort Detrick has been the center of American biological warfare research. Other regions and places, such as the Dagway proving ground in Utah, are also related to the American biological weapons experimental program, and now these overseas laboratories are added. Everything in Fort Detrick is kept secret. This culture of secrecy has lasted for generations, and the whole American political culture is strengthening it, which is hard to break.
Exclusive interview with Global Times
Global Times: From the perspective of the Korean War, the germ warfare in the United States has been "hammered". With such a black history and the constant discovery of various evidences, how can the international community conduct an in-depth investigation of American biological laboratories around the world? What do you suggest?
Jeffrey Kay: First, we need to expose more information. If people don’t know the information, they won’t take action or put pressure on the US government. There is no reason to hide what happened decades ago, unless it would be embarrassing to expose the war crimes that happened at that time. All information related to the Korean War and the Vietnam War should be made public. Japan denies that the 731 troops used germ warfare, which is very bad. America is almost as bad. The United States (in the past) did not admit that it had used chemical and biological weapons, and for many years it has been covering up its alliance with the Japanese germ warfare forces. Therefore, we need to expose them and investigate these war crimes. As far as I know, China invited scientists to China in 1952 to investigate the use of bacteriological warfare by the United States in northeast China during the Korean War. They set up an international investigation team on bacteriological warfare, including famous scientists from all over the world. The investigation team was led by Joseph Needham, a famous British scientist. We need this level of authority to participate in the survey, so that the world can believe the results of the survey. What we need now is to ask the United States to disclose relevant information.
Exclusive interview with Global Times
Global Times: The United States used nuclear weapons against Japan in World War II, biological weapons in the Korean War and chemical weapons such as Agent Orange in the Vietnam War. It can be said that the United States is the only country that used these three weapons of mass destruction in actual combat. As a historian, how do you define these behaviors in the United States?
Jeffrey Kay: As far as modern and contemporary history is concerned, it is first known that Germany attacked enemy livestock, such as horses and sheep, with slugs and pathogens during World War I. Japan was the first country to use chemical and biological weapons against human beings on a large scale. From the late 1930s to the 1940s, Japan used bacteria as a weapon through the invasion of China by Japanese Army 731 and related military units. Later, the US government also used biological weapons during the Korean War. The United States has also been accused of using biological weapons in Cuba and East Germany.
Obviously, whether using biological weapons against North Korea, China, Cuba and other countries, or using chemical weapons against Vietnam, these are all crimes. Although I am mainly committed to exposing the crime of using biological weapons in the United States, other weapons are equally terrible and dangerous. The United States has shown a dangerous tendency to use these weapons, and many people in the world are worried that the United States will use them again.
American historian Jeffrey Kay
[Global Times reporter Yu Jincui] What did the Fort Detrick military base and more than 300 biological laboratories located in nearly 30 countries such as Ukraine do? Jeffrey Kay, an American historian, said in an exclusive interview with the Global Times reporter recently, "I think the United States is carrying out a secret biological weapons project." Jeffrey Kay has long devoted himself to studying the black history of American germ warfare in the Korean War. Before retiring, he opened a psychological clinic in San Francisco to help people who were abused by the CIA. He is the author of "The Cover-up of Guantá namo Bay", which exposes the evils of torture in the United States. He told reporters that the documents published by the United States in recent years have "really hammered" the use of biological weapons by the United States in the Korean War. Moreover, as the only country that has used nuclear weapons, chemical weapons and biological weapons in many wars, the United States still shows a dangerous tendency to continue to use related weapons, which worries the world. More importantly, the US government has been trying to cover up the truth, doing whatever it wants, and opposing the establishment of a verification mechanism in the Biological Weapons Convention. What the international community needs to do is to urge the United States to disclose more information and form an investigation team with high-level authorities.
"The U.S. military used biological weapons that were highly similar to the 731 troops of the Japanese invaders in the Korean War."
Global Times: You have long studied the historical data of the germ warfare carried out by the United States in the Korean War, and called the documents related to the germ warfare published by the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) "the last piece in the puzzle that can prove that the United States carried out the germ warfare." What did you find after consulting the declassified documents of the CIA? Why is there enough evidence to prove that the United States carried out germ warfare during the Korean War?
Jeffrey Kay: We can be 100% sure that the United States engaged in germ warfare during the Korean War. This is based on the evidence provided by hundreds of witnesses to different investigators over the years, the uncensored documents available to the US Department of Defense, the contact records between the Korean People’s Army and Chinese people’s Volunteer Army intercepted by the US during the Korean War, and some recent statements by officers of the US Air Force and Marine Corps about germ warfare.
In 2010, the 60th anniversary of the Korean War, the CIA decided to declassify some highly confidential documents. I found that there were more than 20 internal reports of the Chinese and North Korean armed forces that were hit by American germ warfare. These documents were intercepted by the US security department for translation and analysis. From these documents, I found that many Chinese and North Korean troops reported to their commanders that they were attacked by bacterial weapons, such as DDT was needed to help kill infected insects, the supply was destroyed, and attack force could not move because of biological weapons. These real-time contact records obtained by the United States prove the occurrence of bacterial attacks.
Global Times: Referring to the use of biological weapons by the United States during the Korean War, we would like to know why it was not until recent years that American war crimes were confirmed by documents decrypted by the CIA.
Jeffrey Kay: In the United States, a lot of information about the Korean War is confidential, and some of it has not been released yet. It was only recently that I was shocked to find that during the Cold War, from 1951 to 1965, the US Customs and other departments intercepted a large number of materials from the Soviet Union, China, North Korea and Eastern European countries, including the fact that the United States used biological weapons in the Korean War. However, the United States declared that "these are political propaganda of relevant countries" and destroyed the materials.
Global Times: At the end of World War II, the United States stepped up its efforts to improve bacterial weapons and hooked up with demons like the 731 troops of the Japanese invaders. The biological laboratory in Fort Detrick, USA, is inextricably linked with the 731 troops of the Japanese invaders. Shiro Ishii, the head of the heinous 731 troops, was a biological weapons consultant in Fort De. You think that the biological weapons used by the United States in the Korean War may be related to the Japanese Army Unit 731, and suggest that the international community should form an investigation team to investigate this. Why is it so difficult to push the investigation? Where is the resistance?
The Cover-up of Guantanamo by American historian Jeffrey Kay
Jeffrey Kay: The biological weapons used by the U.S. military in germ warfare are highly similar to those studied by the Japanese Army Unit 731. I don’t know if they are exactly the same, because many documents are confidential. But for anyone who knows this history, it is very possible that the two are related. The US Army Chemical Corps is mainly responsible for the US biological warfare plan. In an internal document in 1953, the Corps mentioned North Korea’s "limited war" and how to use biological weapons as a "temporary policy" in order to improve short-term combat effectiveness. I think these "temporary policy weapons" are the types of weapons adopted by Japanese 731 troops, such as feather bombs (infecting birds’ feathers with viruses) and insect weapons used in China. After the United States signed an agreement with Japanese Army 731 and Ishii Shiro, the Korean battlefield actually became a large-scale experimental site for the biological weapons heritage that the United States "inherited" from Japan.
As for why it is so difficult to promote the investigation of the United States, or why it is so difficult to make people interested in this matter, part of the reason is the legacy of the Cold War. The American government and other western governments are very hostile to anyone who exposes their crimes. We can look at what happened to julian assange. Assange exposed American war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan, and ended up in a British prison today, struggling to refuse extradition to the United States. I don’t know how to explain it. This is shocking. To a great extent, the United States is like a totalitarian government that has infiltrated control into academia and the media. Some people worry that if they promote the information on the public use of biological weapons in the United States or call for an investigation, their careers will be ruined. So, they said nothing. People are afraid to take action. I have seen this scene many times, which is very sad.
"The United States dares not announce the truth about the global biological laboratory"
Global Times: In recent years, the international community has questioned the Fort Detrick biological laboratory in the United States and a large number of biological laboratories in the United States around the world, especially in the Russian periphery (CIS countries). Strange biological virus disasters have occurred in many countries such as Kazakhstan, and calls for the United States to make the truth of these laboratories public have come and gone. Does what the United States has done conform to the provisions of the Biological Weapons Convention (BWC)? Are you worried about the practice of the United States to set up more than 300 biological laboratories around the world?
Jeffrey Kay: Yes, many people are worried that the United States and possibly some other countries are violating the Biological Weapons Convention. There are many secrets in these laboratories — — After the escalation of the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, the relevant documents of Ukrainian laboratories were destroyed, taken away or removed. The U.S. government may say that their overseas biological laboratories are mainly to cooperate with other countries to monitor existing biological threats, including biological weapons attacks from nature and possibly from other countries. But in fact, everyone who has a deep understanding or even a little knowledge of the biological weapons programs of the United States and other countries knows that there is usually only a very fine line between whether the research is for the purpose of defense, such as monitoring biological pathogens, or for the purpose of attack. In fact, when I studied the Korean War, I found that more than one biological weapon research was confirmed under the banner of "defensive biological weapon research". As early as 1948, the chairman of the Advisory Committee of the US Army Chemical Corps once said: "The offensive application of using insects as a medium to deliver biological agents is called ‘ Control insects ’ The defensive research institute covers it up. "
We can’t say exactly what the United States is hiding now, but we do know what the United States has been opposed to. For a long time, the United States has opposed the establishment of the verification mechanism of the Biological Weapons Convention, which has led to the "toothless" international convention, and the United States can do whatever it wants without being censored.
Global Times launched a joint signature campaign in August last year.
Global Times: The U.S. government recently sent out confusing and contradictory information about the Ukrainian biological laboratory. What do you think the U.S. biological laboratory is doing in Ukraine? Why has the United States repeatedly rejected the request of the international community to investigate its overseas biological laboratories? What are they worried about or afraid of?
Jeffrey Kay: The United States needs to disclose relevant documents that can explain what these laboratories are doing. But the problem is, they won’t do it. I think the United States also needs to disclose the whole truth about the biological warfare program 70 or 80 years ago, because unless you understand the history and secrets of the biological warfare program in the United States and the relationship between the biological warfare program and the CIA and academia, you can really understand what these laboratories are doing. But now, all you hear in America is bad words about Russia, because Russia accuses the United States of using birds to spread biological pathogens. The United States has been planning to study the bird migration model and pathogens for a long time, especially in the 1960s and 1970s, and reported it to Fort Detrick as part of the biological warfare plan. What the United States needs to do now is to disclose all the files. We need to decrypt documents dating back to the end of World War II, the Korean War and the Vietnam War, so that we can understand what the United States has done in hundreds of biological laboratories. But they dare not do so because they are afraid that once they do so, it will be proved that the United States has violated the Biological Weapons Convention. As early as the late 1940s, the US government decided to keep all its ongoing biological weapons research highly confidential, and this confidentiality has continued to this day. I’m still trying to collect information, but I think a secret biological weapons project is going on.
"The United States has a dangerous tendency to use these weapons again."
Global Times: Let’s talk about Fort Detrick again. You once said, "Fort Detrick was and still is the research center of American biological warfare. As early as the 1950s, they cooperated closely with the CIA and established in Fort Detrick ‘ Special Operations Department ’ Specializing in the manufacture of biological weapons. " You have also noticed that many biological weapons researchers in Fort Detrick died suddenly after the U.S. military carried out the germ warfare in the Korean War, but the U.S. military never announced the investigation on this matter. Why do Americans keep silent about this?
Armed soldiers stand guard outside the US Army Institute of Infectious Diseases Medicine in Fort Detrick.
Jeffrey Kay: The American public is silent because they don’t really understand what happened in Fort Detrick. The American public is told lies, or they just don’t want to know — — It is the basic psychology of human beings to always believe that the government is good and has not done bad things or committed terrible crimes. This is a kind of blind obedience, which American culture has always encouraged. For many years, Fort Detrick has been the center of American biological warfare research. Other regions and places, such as the Dagway proving ground in Utah, are also related to the American biological weapons experimental program, and now these overseas laboratories are added. Everything in Fort Detrick is kept secret. This culture of secrecy has lasted for generations, and the whole American political culture is strengthening it, which is hard to break.
Exclusive interview with Global Times
Global Times: From the perspective of the Korean War, the germ warfare in the United States has been "hammered". With such a black history and the constant discovery of various evidences, how can the international community conduct an in-depth investigation of American biological laboratories around the world? What do you suggest?
Jeffrey Kay: First, we need to expose more information. If people don’t know the information, they won’t take action or put pressure on the US government. There is no reason to hide what happened decades ago, unless it would be embarrassing to expose the war crimes that happened at that time. All information related to the Korean War and the Vietnam War should be made public. Japan denies that the 731 troops used germ warfare, which is very bad. America is almost as bad. The United States (in the past) did not admit that it had used chemical and biological weapons, and for many years it has been covering up its alliance with the Japanese germ warfare forces. Therefore, we need to expose them and investigate these war crimes. As far as I know, China invited scientists to China in 1952 to investigate the use of bacteriological warfare by the United States in northeast China during the Korean War. They set up an international investigation team on bacteriological warfare, including famous scientists from all over the world. The investigation team was led by Joseph Needham, a famous British scientist. We need this level of authority to participate in the survey, so that the world can believe the results of the survey. What we need now is to ask the United States to disclose relevant information.
Exclusive interview with Global Times
Global Times: The United States used nuclear weapons against Japan in World War II, biological weapons in the Korean War and chemical weapons such as Agent Orange in the Vietnam War. It can be said that the United States is the only country that used these three weapons of mass destruction in actual combat. As a historian, how do you define these behaviors in the United States?
Jeffrey Kay: As far as modern and contemporary history is concerned, it is first known that Germany attacked enemy livestock, such as horses and sheep, with slugs and pathogens during World War I. Japan was the first country to use chemical and biological weapons against human beings on a large scale. From the late 1930s to the 1940s, Japan used bacteria as a weapon through the invasion of China by Japanese Army 731 and related military units. Later, the US government also used biological weapons during the Korean War. The United States has also been accused of using biological weapons in Cuba and East Germany.
Obviously, whether using biological weapons against North Korea, China, Cuba and other countries, or using chemical weapons against Vietnam, these are all crimes. Although I am mainly committed to exposing the crime of using biological weapons in the United States, other weapons are equally terrible and dangerous. The United States has shown a dangerous tendency to use these weapons, and many people in the world are worried that the United States will use them again.